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This is the first of the Prankquean's 3 riddles. Here are the riddles in order:
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* '''to look as like as two peas in a pod:''' (''phrase'') to appear identical → the two peas could be used to represent the twins [[Shem]] and [[Shaun]]
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* '''porter Pees:''' in William Langland's ''Piers Ploughman'' (incidentally which also contains references to Robin Hood and his men, → [[Mulk mountynotty man]]) B.xx.296: Peace ("Pees") is set up as porter to bolt the gates of church Unity to all idle gossipers and men with evil intent: "In Unitee holy chirche / Conscience held hym, / And made Pees porter / To pynne the yates, / Of alle tale-telleris / And titeleris in ydel". .. Peace later interrogates Sir Creeps-into-houses ("Sire Penetrans-domos") who attempts to gain entrance. Peace attempts to keep him out, but Courteous Speech ("Hende-speche") convinces Peace to open up the door for him, with disastrous results → [[handworded]]
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* '''peascod''' → cf. the custom of placing a peascod with nine peas in it on the door-lintel to attract a husband
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* '''Alike:''' (''Greek'') Alice → Alice Pleasance Liddell, the girl who inspired ''Alice in Wonderland'' and ''Through the Looking Glass''; → Alice and her image in the looking glass, or mirror, look alike → [[ALP]]
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* '''poss:''' to wash (clothes) in a poss-tub
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* '''poss:''' (''Dialect'') waterfall
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* '''poss:''' (''Latin'') can (that is, 'able to', but a play on words as in 'can of porter')
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* '''Possen:''' (''German'') prank, trick
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* '''a pot of porter:''' porter is the type of alcoholic drink of which Guinness is the best known example
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* '''porter:''' a door-keeper
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* '''porter:''' (''French'') carry (the Prankquean, in her petty perusienne, is about to carry Tristopher away)
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* '''Piesporter:''' wine from Piesport in Germany
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* '''P's'''
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* '''pees:''' HCE's crime often involves urination
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* '''please'''
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* '''pease:''' (''nursery rhyme'') ''Pease porridge hot, Pease porridge cold, Pease porridge in the pot Nine days old. Spell me that without a P, And a clever scholar you will be'' → the answer, of course, is THAT
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[[Category:Greek phrases]]
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1. Mark the wans, why do I am alook alike a poss of porterpease?
 
2. Mark the Twy, why do I am alook alike two poss of porterpease?
 
3. Mark the Tris, why do I am alook alike three poss of porter pease?
 
  
The form of the riddles is based on the three times (wans, twy, tris) is a charm motif (used elsewhere in FW, for example in the tale of the Kerrse the Tailor and the Russian General). It is used in "the fairytale pattern of three tries and a magic opening" (Margeret C. Solomon, Eternal Geomater).
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==Commentary==
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This is the first of the Prankquean's 3 riddles. Here are the riddles in order:
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<blockquote>
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'''1. Mark the wans, why do I am alook alike a poss of porterpease?<br>'''
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'''2. Mark the Twy, why do I am alook alike two poss of porterpease?<br>'''
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'''3. Mark the Tris, why do I am alook alike three poss of porter pease?<br>'''
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</blockquote>
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The threefold form of the riddles (''wans, twy, tris'') is a charm motif that is used elsewhere in FW (e.g. in the tales ''How Kerrse Made A Suit of Clothes for the Norwegian Captain'' and ''How Buckley Shot the Russian General''). It is used in "the fairytale pattern of three tries and a magic opening" (Margeret C. Solomon, ''Eternal Geomater'').
  
Porter = a door keeper and ale.
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The Prankquean ([[ALP]]) seems to Jarl van Hoother ([[HCE]]) a riddle; at the same time she asks him for a drink, just as Grace O'Malley sought hospitality from the Lord of Howth in the original story.
  
The riddle sounds like: why do i and a poss of porter look as alike as two peas in a pod?
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The riddle sounds like: ''Why do I and a poss of porter look as alike as two peas in a pod?''
  
* The two peas could be used to represent the Twins (Shem and Shaun)
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Taking different elements of the phrasing of the riddle, we can extract various questions relevant to the situation such as:
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*1) ''Why am I like a pot of pease porridge?'' The answer being that she is both ''hot'' (angry for being left outside) and ''cold''.
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*2) ''How do I get past the porter, please?'' (The Manservant as doorkeeper/porter not letting her in &rarr; [[keep of his inn]])
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*3) ''Who do you take me for? I'd like a poss (that is 'wash') of porter (the drink), please?''

Latest revision as of 03:27, 22 February 2020

  • to look as like as two peas in a pod: (phrase) to appear identical → the two peas could be used to represent the twins Shem and Shaun
  • porter Pees: in William Langland's Piers Ploughman (incidentally which also contains references to Robin Hood and his men, → Mulk mountynotty man) B.xx.296: Peace ("Pees") is set up as porter to bolt the gates of church Unity to all idle gossipers and men with evil intent: "In Unitee holy chirche / Conscience held hym, / And made Pees porter / To pynne the yates, / Of alle tale-telleris / And titeleris in ydel". .. Peace later interrogates Sir Creeps-into-houses ("Sire Penetrans-domos") who attempts to gain entrance. Peace attempts to keep him out, but Courteous Speech ("Hende-speche") convinces Peace to open up the door for him, with disastrous results → handworded
  • peascod → cf. the custom of placing a peascod with nine peas in it on the door-lintel to attract a husband
  • Alike: (Greek) Alice → Alice Pleasance Liddell, the girl who inspired Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass; → Alice and her image in the looking glass, or mirror, look alike → ALP
  • poss: to wash (clothes) in a poss-tub
  • poss: (Dialect) waterfall
  • poss: (Latin) can (that is, 'able to', but a play on words as in 'can of porter')
  • Possen: (German) prank, trick
  • a pot of porter: porter is the type of alcoholic drink of which Guinness is the best known example
  • porter: a door-keeper
  • porter: (French) carry (the Prankquean, in her petty perusienne, is about to carry Tristopher away)
  • Piesporter: wine from Piesport in Germany
  • P's
  • pees: HCE's crime often involves urination
  • please
  • pease: (nursery rhyme) Pease porridge hot, Pease porridge cold, Pease porridge in the pot Nine days old. Spell me that without a P, And a clever scholar you will be → the answer, of course, is THAT


Commentary

This is the first of the Prankquean's 3 riddles. Here are the riddles in order:

1. Mark the wans, why do I am alook alike a poss of porterpease?
2. Mark the Twy, why do I am alook alike two poss of porterpease?
3. Mark the Tris, why do I am alook alike three poss of porter pease?

The threefold form of the riddles (wans, twy, tris) is a charm motif that is used elsewhere in FW (e.g. in the tales How Kerrse Made A Suit of Clothes for the Norwegian Captain and How Buckley Shot the Russian General). It is used in "the fairytale pattern of three tries and a magic opening" (Margeret C. Solomon, Eternal Geomater).

The Prankquean (ALP) seems to Jarl van Hoother (HCE) a riddle; at the same time she asks him for a drink, just as Grace O'Malley sought hospitality from the Lord of Howth in the original story.

The riddle sounds like: Why do I and a poss of porter look as alike as two peas in a pod?

Taking different elements of the phrasing of the riddle, we can extract various questions relevant to the situation such as:

  • 1) Why am I like a pot of pease porridge? The answer being that she is both hot (angry for being left outside) and cold.
  • 2) How do I get past the porter, please? (The Manservant as doorkeeper/porter not letting her in → keep of his inn)
  • 3) Who do you take me for? I'd like a poss (that is 'wash') of porter (the drink), please?